Hi all,
As a C++ programmer I would like to start using it in the embedded world. For that I wish to be familiar with a popular IDE on which I can write projects for ARM-based MCUs, from different vendors, be it of ST or others, and get help when running across a problem.
I've some titles in mind such as: IAR and Keil. What are your ideas, please?
Thanks.
Andy Neil said:Both of those are paid-for commercial products - do you have budget for that?
Andy Neil said:Some popular "free" (as in beer) IDEs are
I have budget, yes. So if we remove the budget restriction, which do you consider more popular and better for me, please?
One thing about the reason why I asked this question and my experience with some other IDE:My current arm board is STM32F10C8T6 (Blue Pill) and have also ordered a STM32F411 Nucleo-64 one abroad, which I will receive about a month from now. So I started working on the blue pill using STM32Cube IDE to blink the its LED as my first embedded programming project. The IDE looks modern and is said to be popular and very good especially for ST MCUs. (I.e., products of the same family!)The problem with that IDE which made me look for another IDE is that it seems to be very proprietary. While it sees my board and I can upgrade the firmware using it, I neither can debug nor run my project on the board, and will face the error shown in the screenshot below when debugging/running. Although I tested "many" solutions to work it out but no success. It's only possible to build the project. :(For blinking the LED I had to open and flash the built binary file onto the board using STM32 ST-LINK Utility. That's why I'm going to select another IDE and hopefully won't see that problem there. PS: I wish the thread weren't moved to the Keil forums since it's more general than Keil and is more suitable for the Embedded section! :|
You need to take problems with ST's tools to the ST forum.
Ary said: I wish the thread weren't moved to the Keil forums since it's more general than Keil and is more suitable for the Embedded section!
You initially posted it in some entirely inappropriate forum - I guess it got moved to the Keil forum as you specifically mentioned Keil, and the first reply was all about Keil.
Andy Neil said:You need to take problems with ST's tools to the ST forum
There's solely a forum for the Keil IDE on this website out of all other IDEs!
Andy Neil said:You initially posted it in some entirely inappropriate forum
Why was it some entirely inappropriate forum?
Andy Neil said:I guess it got moved to the Keil forum as you specifically mentioned Keil, and the first reply was all about Keil.
I didn't mention Keil to be sure to pick it out, out of all other IDEs; I just said what was in mind about two IDEs and asked others to suggest one (amongst all IDEs) based on my circumstances and purposes. If it was my final choice, there wouldn't be a need to ask the question! Still I can get useful replies for my question if the thread goes back to the general forum I believe. Please get it back there. I'm not comfortable with this Keil forum because of the reasons I mentioned. Yet, I'm not completely sure what IDE to start with now.
Ary said:There's solely a forum for the Keil IDE on this website out of all other IDEs!
Errr ... the clue is in the name:
IIRC, You originally posted in the 'Simulation Models' forum - which was definitely wrong
Hello Ary,
I have asked the community owner to move the thread, as your original forum was definitely not the right place. Unfortunately, we have no generic IDE forum, so I think that this is the best one you can get for the moment. But we can also move it to the general "Embedded" forum.
Regarding a test drive with Keil MDK, I'd suggest to download the latest version (v5.34) and either try the MDK-Lite version (free, 32 kB code size max) or test the MDK-Professional version by getting a 30-day trial license here: https://www.keil.com/MDKEvaluationRequest/.
Kind regards,
Christopher
Christopher Seidl said:we can also move it to the general "Embedded" forum
I think that would be the best place - as it's not specific to Keil.
Christopher Seidl said: But we can also move it to the general "Embedded" forum.
"Yes, please do that."Still I'm not sure about the IDEs to select one between them. I appreciate your point of view about things that are important for me and your suggestion on Keil, but I like to hear different people's perspectives too, those who are embedded programmers and have experienced the IDEs all. That's why the Embedded forum was chosen by me first. I will ask my upcoming questions in the Keil forum if I choose that IDE for my purposes.
Ary said:I will ask my upcoming questions in the Keil forum if I choose that IDE for my purposes
But only the ones that are actually about the IDE / toolchain.
Again: