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MISRA stands for "Motor Industry Software Reliability Association". IAR has an Embedded Workbench which I believe is a Tester to verify the implementation for the MISRA C rules.
Does KEIL have a such a tool?
If there a PDF document available that spells out the rules. I have search and all I can find are test suites.
"Have you actually read the MISRA C guidelines?"
Why did you only challenge Erik with that?
Why did you not challenge o salvatore - who made the original unsubstantiated comment, "MISRA is bullshit"
It may or may not be true, but nobody should make such a sweeping statement without any kind of supporting argument!
Because Jack Sprat gets a kick out of being provocative, and because he know that Erik has a problem letting go of challenges. In short, Jack Sprat is a troll.
sir jack
please not be pick on sir eric lots
he is decedes old of knowlege and is wise and good adviice sometime
he help me before when i not know programing as profesional you see
he is good freind yes
"Jack Sprat is a troll."
No - surely not?!
The thought had never even occurred to me...
;-)
It wasn't a challenge, it was a simple question.
I would have thought that the majority of readers can see that post for what it is without my having to point it out.
Agreed. In addition, that argument should have a basis in fact rather than opinion or conjecture.
Jack Sprat is a blabbering idiot that - without any such knowledge - claim to know what i do and do not do and I do not show such individuals diddlysquat.
Erik
Erik!
I thought that you had promised us to ignore all posts from Jack Sprat. He is feeding on your responses. It really doesn't matter what you write in them. It's enough for him that you respond.
That's not the case. I persist in the hope of getting a sensible response which would clear up the mis-information he posts. Taking this thread as an example:
A discussion of the MISRA C guidelines takes place. Then, Erik posts the following:
I can not even imagine to apply each and every 'rule' in MISRA C but to state it is 'bullshit' is stating that every rule is 'wrong' which even you must admit is not true. There are 'rules' in MISRA C that makes for better software and I just wish the above humuurus definition was the true one. I know nothing worse that C based on "artistic freedom"
He is commenting on the MISRA C guidelines in such a way that the reader would assume he knows what they are, when of course he hasn't read the document and is actually commenting on what he imagines they might be. This would be fine if he qualified his comments with 'I haven't read the guidelines, but...' in which case the reader would know that his comments should be ignored.
It is also somewhat ironic that he is usually the first person to demand that the questioner should read the manual, when he seems so reluctant to do so himself.
when of course he hasn't read the document
Of course? are you psychic.
There is no way in hades I am going to satisfy a smoked sardine (a sprat) with an answer.
No. I used my powers of deduction instead.
Your silence spoke a thousand words.
Incidentally, a sprat is not a sardine. At least try and get your insults right.
Incidentally, a sprat is not a sardine.
www.outernetweb.com/.../sprats.html
at least try to get YOUR facts straight.
Jack Sprat is a blabbering idiot that - without any such knowledge - claim to know what i do and do not do
and I do not show such individuals diddlysquat. now that THIS is in bold DO YOU UNDRESTANDS!
Jack Sprat is a blabbering idiot that because I do not answer blabbering idiots, show his idiocy by idiotically assuming that the fact that I do not answer blabbering idiots has other meanings.
I guess grandma's recipe book isn't the most authoritative source. Shall we try the dictionary instead:
www.m-w.com/.../sprat
or the Encyclopaedia:
www.britannica.com/.../bristling
You must learn not to rely on sub-standard information. We went through this with your refusal to read the 'C' standard.
I must congratulate you on having written one of the least comprehensible sentences I've ever seen!
You must learn not to rely on sub-standard information.
Just as you do not have to rely on information you do not have!
I have bought sprats which were smoked sardines in a can, but, of course a one-track mind like yours can not comprehend that some things have more than one meaning.
so, it is, again, proven that Jack Sprat is a blabbering idiot that - without any such knowledge - blabber along
writing something YOU can not comprehend is dead easy
so, Jack, try to get this into your peabrain (I know it is difficult, but try to read it ten times) I do not show such idiots diddlysquat.
"so, Jack, try to get this into your peabrain (I know it is difficult, but try to read it ten times) I do not show such idiots diddlysquat."
But you DO show him exactly what he wants, and time and time again, we watch these conversations that sound like little children who've too-early been allowed to sit at the grownup table: One who has to have the last word, and one who thinks well-written English makes insults more erudite.
Let me try and spell this out for both of you:
Erik, Jack does not respect your opinions and holds you in low regard because he feels your particular method of solving problems and answering questions is inferior. He challenges you because a.) He enjoys seeing you get progressively more angry and b.) He thinks it will somehow "enlighten" the rest of us not to "trust you."
Jack, You've done a bang-up job of proving to everyone that you're a methodical person who doesn't care for Eric's style. Your well-written posts, however, are no less irritating and useless than the ones from Erik you constantly decry as heresy. Rest assured, you do us no favors that can draw our own conclusions about the world.
Your wars are like Tesla and Edison (en.wikipedia.org/.../War_of_Currents), throwing stones at each other over their conflicting styles. Eventually the rest of the world learned that each of their methods has its place. Perhaps you can resolve this a bit quicker than they did before people abandon Keil's forums altogether?
-Jay Daniel
Erik, Jack does not respect your opinions and holds you in low regard because he feels your particular method of solving problems and answering questions is inferior
I guess the reason is different.
My guess is that once he appeared under his real name and I proved him wrong (or maybe just strongly disagreed with him) and as all other little children he takes every chance he has to stamp his little feet in the ground.
final word whoever you are hiding under the smoked sardines, send me an e-mail or post under your real name and we will resolve this.
if you insist on maintaining your cowardly assumed name, I'm done.
"final word whoever you are hiding under the smoked sardines, send me an e-mail or post under your real name and we will resolve this."
Mark this: there will be no resolution to these arguments. You will simply have to dismiss them and ignore him hereafter.
"if you insist on maintaining your cowardly assumed name, I'm done."
Let me just interject: He could easily choose another (real-sounding) pseudonym and continue baiting you. Just do this: If you see a post that's insulting in tone and of substantially the same content: JUST IGNORE IT. It will be hard at first, but pay off by tenfold.