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Hello,
The system in place to prevent spam is highly ineffective. I urge Kiel to change it to a registration / moderation based system. Note how the number of useful posts has dropped. There are no longer open and meaningful discussions here. What a shame...!
Useful for what? The spam, while annoying, can be ignored, but unless you improve educational/teaching habits you're going to get a lot of lazy individuals using the internet to provide them with answers rather than solved them themselves.
Like trees falling in the forest when no one is there, in the past we didn't hear them and they failed silently, we can now hear them because they wield a lot of power without the skill to use it.
Fixing this is difficult, in much the same way you don't get to pick your neighbours. So you either need to participate in the forum as you find it, or find one that offers the "community" you desire.
Has it?
Sure, the spam has increased - but they're easy to spot and, thus, avoid.
It would have been interesting if the "I refuse to look for information - give it to me" posters could have shown up with a reference to their school so we could see if there is a pattern.
I can only hope that the low frequency of people who ask good questions is because lots of people manage on their own and never make any posts.
It's interesting that the huge improvements in information search technologies seems to make it harder and harder for people to find information - or if it's just that all the people who would have failed the first few weeks now manages to survive and continue with their rather failed studies just so they will get a degree in "don't trust me at the office because I only present (and claimed as my own work) what someone else have already written and posted on the net".
Talking about issues with this forum - I don't like the new concept where the text message box has an "infinite" width so every paragraph will show as a single, horisontally scrolling, line of text in the editor. That must be one of the most hostile forum implementations to be found. And from an IT company that should know better.
There is no need to support infinitely long source code lines so why destroy the normal text input functionality?
what is the depreciating value of the forum more is that the CAPTCHA on each reply that 6 or more months earlier was stated to be temporary now, as a "spam fighter" is just made more combersome
Etrik
Todays captchas are easy compared to the initial version. Now it's only short and easy numbers. Earlier it was random if it was a number of two words of which one word was intentionally garbled.
The only hard number I have seen was once where most of the digits were outside of the image.
But it's correct that the captcha solution was claimed to be a short-term solution before we would get accounts or similar. But short-term may mean 10 years when companies decides that they can't afford to take the step and implement what this web should have been using from day one. So right now, it costs Keil money every single day to have someone spot and kill spam posts.
I guess that, Keil discussion forum's Page rank of search engines is getting lower and lower.
The OPs style of post has barely changed over the years. Heck, even after all this time, it appears he doesn't even know how to spell Keil?!
The title suggests that he thinks the forum is no longer useful and the first line says the anti-spam is highly ineffective.
Are the two linked? I don't see that they are or why they should be.
Spam is a pain, and it would be nice to see less of it.
Meaningful discussions are nice, but not essential.
What I like to see on a forum such as this are good, well structured questions with good well structured answers.
I personally do still find the forum useful. And, being someone who knows how to search, I manage to find answers to occasional questions I come up with.
The only regret is seeing that some of the more colourful characters no longer seem to post.
Per,
Now it's only short and easy numbers
forum more is that the CAPTCHA on each reply that 6 or more months earlier was stated to be temporary now, as a "spam fighter" is just made more combersome
so, instead of making the obvious fix (registration) it is just made more difficult to post.
I have even taken to posting 'x' and revising to avoid retyping leghty posts when I got the CAPTCA wrong
Wrong captcha answer should make you lose your post - it's just that you don't get to the preview stage and have to try again.
I do not know how that apppende, but the above posts by me gas some crazy author name, hopefully fixed now
Erik
Matt black,
Why are so negative? Come on man, the Keil misspell is due to the spell checker !
Why are so negative?
Negative? Really? I'm supporting the forum and what it provides.
I use a spell checker and a grammar checker; but I've learnt to use what it says as suggestions, not take it as Gospel.
And your post was entirely positive and supportive, then?!
the Forum isnt as useful as it once was
guessing it is because
Folks were learning about the middleware and its "added functionality" I now trust the compiler and ide 100%
Recently the forum seems to be filled with "Give me code" requests from uni or college students who are lazy XXXXXs or do not have the nounce to work in this field - makes me feel warm inside knowing I will have a job a little longer.
The Version 5+ tool with run-time packs is a nice idea but been implemented in a manner that suggests some folk do not know their elbow from posterior.
The forum will become interesting again for me, once the ST cmsis/ CubeMX "issue" has been sorted out.