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Hi,
I have this design for a controller but i dont know the program for it?
Where can I find the code for it? I tried google coding but cannot find it. I normally write Pascal(Delphi) but this needs to be in Keil C for a 8051.
I need to get it working quickly. Who will help?
it is surprising that Cpt. Vince loves Windows so much.
John Linq,
UNIX/Linux
Using Linux is fine, but I have seen too many code-monkeys boasting their Linux systems as ever-so superior than Windows, etc. If they're using the OS as a development platform for a cross compiler then it is JUST A TOOL. Otherwise they better be writing something that runs on the Linux system itself.
Be it Linux/Unix/PC or otherwise, some code-monkeys are using it as a mechanism to become more geekafied. Embedded Linux is fine. But with any major OS vendor, if you are doing High Reliability applications there is a the reliance on so many non-certified drivers and services. All sources of failure.
Many of these code-monkeys are using the Linux alternative because it makes them feel like they are 'true computer geeks' while I view it as the only contemporary way to experience the OS's of old. Where we were 'the geeks' and that was definitely not a 'cool' thing: those heady days of social ostracization. In those days, the UNIX system usually wasn't found in your basement lab, or your bedroom. Businesses had them with expensive computers.
I was only poking fun at those type of 'wannabe' geeks. Linux is fine, and getting better. I was one of the last guys on the block to use a 'mouse' instead of the command line because I was ever-so proficient at the keyboard and the OS.
It is amazing how much partisanship there is on the 3 or 4 dominant operating systems. (Windows, "MAC", Linux, and true UNIX). Again, unless you are writing code that runs on the same OS, then picking the right tool for the job shouldn't be because of its "coolness factor." The PC has the most engineering tools that run on it. How many FPGA development systems, or EDAs, IDEs, or CAD packages run on [PC-based] Linux? (I know its not zero, but there are only a few worth using).
Unless you run with the big-boys like Solaris [running a qualified OS (UNIX)], Windows is the OS that offers the best choice of tools. Using Linux where Windows would best apply is going down that whole retro-OS dinking-around and a myriad of frustrations that look like you're a savvy computer guy. Fine, it might work with the stupified, but don't think that dropping the L-word is going to impress me.
I'm not going to tell my mother-in-law to buy that---super superior 'better than windows' and cooler than a MAC---Linux Box so she can browse the web, get email, and write letters. The best tool for that job is most likely in the MAC world. The best tool for doing an 8051, or C166, or ARM, or whatever is Keil's IDE running on a PC. (It is a Keil forum after all).
It is not out of 'love of Windows', but the 'love' of the right tool for the job... even if it isn't a perfect tool.
--Cpt. Vince Foster 2nd Cannon Place Fort Marcy Park, VA (NOTE: New posts should be at the bottom, in chronological order... we all know how to scroll up)
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To summarise:
You need Windows to use Keil tools.
(NOTE: New posts should be at the bottom, in chronological order... we all know how to scroll up)
Yes sir right away sir!
Well,
I learnt that Vince's wife is not a good flyer.
Regarding his posts ...
Usefullness score: 0% Readability score: 5% Ramble score: 95% Confusion score: 75% Soporific score: 100%
That said, this forum would be missing something without his input.
Hey meat-head,
I'm glad to know that this forum would 'be missing something' without me. But I must say, that those scores you gave me were really painful to see. Knowing your extensive background on all issues embedded, I'm now having a problem with my self-confidence and wonder if I'll ever make it in this industry.
Its good to know that I scored well on the Ramble, Confusion, and Soporific sections of the Limp Sausage Standard metrics.
Puleeze enlighten me on your own scores in this regard.
--Cpt. Vince Foster 2nd Cannon Place Fort Marcy Park, VA
Poor summary, but I'm sure it scored well on Limp Sausage Standard.
I would summarize it more as "get the best tools for the job"
"Yes sir right away sir!"
At ease soldier.
Keil IDE runs under Wine...so NO, you don't need windows!
But while I love Linux machines for a number of reasons, I can only note that Wine sounds like a workaround. The direct approach - using a Windows machine - do sound like a more natural way.
But please expand on this. Runs under Wine as in being able to run the IDE or being able to compile or also able to use USB with the ULink to download and debug? A lot of Win32 development tools can run the IDE and compile under Wine but fails to access programming adapters.
"Knowing your extensive background on all issues embedded..."
It's nice to see that my reputation is becoming known ;) Even though I suspect that it is not really appreciated.
Vince,
Your scores were low for readability and usefullness purely because I was unable to read the complete post. It's a possibility that I've got attention deficit disorder, but I think it may be to do with the amount you write. How do you find the time to type so much???
As for my scores, well ... I'll leave it to you to judge.
Why do people keep using my name around here?
Sorry, Mr Monkey.
/code chimp walks away in shame
Well, the message was lost in the smoke. I did my best, but even a double expresso couldn't keep the lids open all the way through.
That's because you haven't learnt how to comment code properly. Here's a template you could try following in the future:
/*************************************************** * File: * * Author: * * Revision: * * Revision history: * * Purpose: * * <Veiled disparaging reference to someone you dislike> * * Scope: * * Applicability: * * Side effects: * * <Snide swipe at code monkeys here> * * Arguments: * * Globals referenced: * * <Interminable discourse about globals> * * <Snide code monkey reference> * * Return value: * **************************************************/ void IncrementA(void) { a=a+1; /************************************* * * <lengthy discourse about a++ versus a=a+1 * *************************************/ }
Meaningless thread reaches 100 posts!
If a sufficiently large number of code monkeys were given teletypes, would they eventually write UNIX...?
"If a sufficiently large number of code monkeys were given teletypes, would they eventually write UNIX...?"
That would be easy.
A more challenging task would be to come up with one of Cpt. Vince's monologues ;)
"A more challenging task would be to come up with one of Cpt. Vince's monologues"
How do you know that they aren't already doing it...?
With digressions to ++a and a+=1