Dear sir; I had written program with Keil and i dont like to give it to other but i want to give assembly to him that he can compile this assembly code to HEX. please guide me how can i converted it to assembly for compilng it to hex. As you mentioned Keil have a project.lst includes C program and assembly but i couldnt use it for compile to hex.(Do you understand me or not?) j.majd@engineer.com
So give him a Library, then.
"So give him a Library, then." What part of 'becuase i have to' do you not understand?
I am sure Andy understand the message. I am, however, sure that Andy instead of mindlessly answering the question tries to direct the OP towards a better solution. It is obvious there are two schools of thought in the answers: help the OP to solve the problem the best way AND let the OP do it his way, be it right, be it wrong Erik
"What part of 'becuase i have to' do you not understand?" That bit's clear - what isn't clear is what it applies to! Is it "because I have to give him assembler," or is it "because I have to give him something he won't understand." My reading of the original questions is that the requirement is to keep the 'C' source secret, while still allowing this untrustworthy "customer" to build his project - so it's "because I have to give him something he won't understand." A Library neets that requirement admirably - So that is a direct answer to the question as I read it.
" I am, however, sure that Andy instead of mindlessly answering the question tries to direct the OP towards a better solution." Or maybe Andy just misread the question... "help the OP to solve the problem the best way AND let the OP do it his way, be it right, be it wrong" Actually, I've given him both - use a Library (best way?) or use SRC (his way)
"I am, however, sure that Andy instead of mindlessly answering the question tries to direct the OP towards a better solution." The library suggestion has been made repeatedly and the OP has repeatedly stated that he has to supply source. That now being established, please explain how there can be a 'better solution' to direct the OP to? "It is obvious there are two schools of thought in the answers: help the OP to solve the problem the best way AND let the OP do it his way, be it right, be it wrong" You've missed out the third way: Keep telling the OP he is wrong despite knowing nothing about his application or situation. Ignore him when he explains why your solution is inappropriate, just keep insisting he's wrong.
"The library suggestion has been made repeatedly and the OP has repeatedly stated that he has to supply source." No, he hasn't. Maybe it's just a language problem, and he meant to - so I'm just mis-reading it. But, as far as I can see, all he has stated is that he needs to supply something that the recipient won't understand. "Ignore him when he explains why your solution is inappropriate" He has not given any explanation whatsoever of why a Library is inappropriate. "... knowing nothing about his application or situation" That cuts both ways - without knowing about his situation, we can't say which is better. Maybe a Library is better - he hasn't given any reason to believe otherwise!
"No, he hasn't." Oh, c'mon. Look at his statement in the context of your questions and I think it's perfectly clear.
"Look at his statement in the context of your questions and I think it's perfectly clear." No. I disagree. All he has said for certain is that he has to give something without giving the 'C' source. It is not clear that assembler is a specifc requirement - it looks very much to me like it was just his first idea... Note also that I have answered his specific question - "how to convert 'C' to assembler" - and I have also given him my suggestion that a Library would better achieve his aim of keeping the source secret. And I explained why. Given that he's had all this for free, don't you think it would at least be courteous of him to say why a library is not appropriate to his situation? After all, this is a Discussion forum - not just a "free answers" shop!
"the OP has repeatedly stated that he has to supply source." Has he? You must be interpreting his repeated posts of "becuase i have to give him" as deliberate, then? They just look like finger-trouble to me - which is not uncommon on this forum.
You must be interpreting Oh, Stefan is, he just has a problem with you not interpreting it the same way. I would love to get back to discussing technical matters, but Stefan keep bringing in Personal idiosyncracies instead of just providing an alternate solution. If Stefan thinks it is more important to critisize my style (rather than the content) then I fail to see what good his posts do. Stefan, if you can prove that suggesting a library would get the OP in trouble I will retract, but since you can't I suggest you do. Trevlig helg Erik
"I would love to get back to discussing technical matters, but Stefan keep bringing in Personal idiosyncracies instead of just providing an alternate solution. If Stefan thinks it is more important to critisize my style (rather than the content) then I fail to see what good his posts do." I'm criticising the fact that you keep expressing unfounded opinion as though it were The Absolute Truth. While your style is somewhat irritating the important point is the content which is at best misleading and at worst wrong. My posts attempt to provide an indication to others that your comments should not be taken as statements of fact and hopefully to encourage you to see that there is a world out here where all things do not conform to the gospel according to Erik. "Stefan, if you can prove that suggesting a library would get the OP in trouble I will retract, but since you can't I suggest you do." When did I say that suggesting a library would get the OP in trouble? What exactly would you like me to 'retract'?
"Given that he's had all this for free, don't you think it would at least be courteous of him to say why a library is not appropriate to his situation?" At the expense of sounding like a stuck record myself, he has explained this. He said he has to supply source, therefore a library would be inappropriate.
""the OP has repeatedly stated that he has to supply source." Has he? You must be interpreting his repeated posts of "becuase i have to give him" as deliberate, then? They just look like finger-trouble to me - which is not uncommon on this forum." No problem, please reread as: 'the OP has stated that he has to supply source.'
"'the OP has stated that he has to supply source." No, he hasn't. Here's what he said: "I had written program with Keil and i dont like to give it to other but i want to give assembly to him that he can compile this assembly code to HEX." He said he wants to give assembly - he does not say that there is any specific requirement to give assembly; that's just the way he wants to do it. I told him how to do that, but I have also advised that using a Library would be a better approach. If he'd care to comment on why a Library is not appropriate to his particular requirement, perhaps we might all learn something...