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Array initialization in ext memory

Hi! i have use p89c669 microcontroller and am29f040b [512 kb] flash.When i using the external code memory i can't initialize the array that have more than 4 values.if i initialize more than that the program will not be executed.if i comment the array the program was executed.the code was

const char red [256] = {0x00,0x00...0x00,0x00};

please help me!

regrads,
K.T.Venkatesan.

  • Why use the 'far'? I thought that was used on cores that support 24 bit addressing.

    Are you beyond 64K? Don't cross the boundary!

    Check the map file.

  • Why use the 'far'? I thought that was used on cores that support 24 bit addressing.
    which the (soon to be discontinued) '669 does

    Erik

  • You can't have an initialiser on an extern declaration, can you?

    Yes. Well, yes on a "definition" but not on a "declaration", to be pedantic, but the syntax is legal, and from the code snippets above you can't really tell whether it was meant to be a declaration. The initializer makes it a definition, and you'll get some sort of "multiply defined" diagnostic message if the syntax shows up in a .h file included in several .c files (for example).

    From the ANSI C89 spec:

    3.7.2 External object definitions
    
    Semantics
    
       If the declaration of an identifier for an object has file scope
    and an initializer, the declaration is an external definition for the
    identifier.
    
       A declaration of an identifier for an object that has file scope
    without an initializer, and without a storage-class specifier or with
    the storage-class specifier static , constitutes a tentative
    definition.  If a translation unit contains one or more tentative
    definitions for an identifier, and the translation unit contains no
    external definition for that identifier, then the behavior is exactly
    as if the translation unit contains a file scope declaration of that
    identifier, with the composite type as of the end of the translation
    unit, with an initializer equal to 0.
    
       If the declaration of an identifier for an object is a tentative
    definition and has internal linkage, the declared type shall not be an
    incomplete type.
    
    Examples
    
             int i1 = 1;          /*  definition, external linkage */
             static int i2 = 2;   /*  definition, internal linkage */
             extern int i3 = 3;   /*  definition, external linkage */
             int i4;              /*  tentative definition, external linkage */
             static int i5;       /*  tentative definition, internal linkage */
    
             int i1;   /*  valid tentative definition, refers to previous */
             int i2;   /*  $3.1.2.2 renders undefined, linkage disagreement */
             int i3;   /*  valid tentative definition, refers to previous */
             int i4;   /*  valid tentative definition, refers to previous */
             int i5;   /*  $3.1.2.2 renders undefined, linkage disagreement */
    
    
    
             extern int i1; /* refers to previous, whose linkage is external */
             extern int i2; /* refers to previous, whose linkage is internal */
             extern int i3; /* refers to previous, whose linkage is external */
             extern int i4; /* refers to previous, whose linkage is external */
             extern int i5; /* refers to previous, whose linkage is internal */
    
    

    Since I'm not a fan of programming languages doing much (if anything) implicitly, I prefer always to repeat the extern/static on the definition as well as the declarations. This at least earns me a diagnostic message when an object changes from external to internal, and serves as a useful reminder that "this object is accessible from outside", and keeps the syntax parallel with the "static" case.

  • Yes!i can initialize the array with extern
    i see this in keil web site http://www.keil.com/support/docs/3128.htm

    K.T.V

  • Erik is saying that the issue is not the actual size of the array, but that it crosses a 64K address boundary then, then only way is seperate the 512kb into 8 blocks, am i right?

  • The whole point of that article is that you do the initialisation in assembler - not in 'C'!

  • Have you examined the link map file ?

  • yes! here it is!

    LX51 LINKER/LOCATER V4.02                                                               03/11/2008  11:52:22  PAGE 1
    
    
    LX51 LINKER/LOCATER V4.02, INVOKED BY:
    C:\KEIL\C51\BIN\LX51.EXE COMMON {START_MX.obj}, COMMON {main.obj}, BANK1 {code bank 1.obj}, BANK1 {.\L51_BANK.obj} TO LC
    >>  color BANKAREA (0X008000, 0X00FFFF) CLASSES (EDATA (0X7F0000-0X7F04FF))
    
    
    CPU MODE:     PHILIPS 80C51MX (ROM HUGE)
    MEMORY MODEL: LARGE
    
    
    INPUT MODULES INCLUDED:
      START_MX.obj (?C_STARTUP)
             COMMENT TYPE 0: AX51 V3.01
      main.obj (MAIN)
             COMMENT TYPE 0: CX51 V8.01
      code bank 1.obj (CODE_BANK_1)
             COMMENT TYPE 0: CX51 V8.01
      .\L51_BANK.obj (?BANK?SWITCHING)
             COMMENT TYPE 0: AX51 V3.01
      C:\KEIL\C51\LIB\CH51L.LIB (MALLOC)
             COMMENT TYPE 0: CX51 V7.20f
      C:\KEIL\C51\LIB\CH51L.LIB (INIT_MEM)
             COMMENT TYPE 0: CX51 V7.20f
    
    
    ACTIVE MEMORY CLASSES OF MODULE:  LC color (?C_STARTUP)
    
    BASE        START       END         USED      MEMORY CLASS
    ==========================================================
    7F0000H     7F0000H     7F04FFH               EDATA
    800000H     800000H     80FFFFH     0001CCH   CODE
    7F0000H     7F0000H     7F00FFH     000001H   IDATA
    000000H     800000H     FFFFFFH     0002FAH   HCONST
    000000H     800000H     FFFFFFH     000453H   ECODE
    000000H     000000H     00FFFFH     000020H   XDATA
    000000H     000000H     FFFFFFH     000042H   HDATA
    7F0000H     7F0000H     7F007FH     000008H   DATA
    
    

  • Hmmm,

    You said before that you didn't use banking??!!

  • yes! today only i try the banking!

  • 'trying' is the bane of many projects.
    the result of a 'try' may come out right even if what you 'try' is the wrong approach.

    the dead easy way to handle this is to do two things
    a) make an .a51 module that contain ALL xdata and make them accessible from C by extern, then you have full control of the locations
    b) access the biggie in an assembler routine

    you will be home free

    Erik

  • I have done the exact same as above

    Erik

  • Hi! the array problem was solved, now i using the banking method.but the bank size was limitted to 32kb.i can't enter more than 32kb in the keil/options for target1/bank area .

    my heartly thanks to all!