why is there so much animosity
one could easily see that the so called seniors are very rude. this guy might be wrong with the title of his post but than this is what he probably thought. Just because you know something doesn't mean that you have to be rude to others as it must have taken long time for you guys to learn.i didn't see any straight answers or clear reference to anything that these guys have given.
be nice to newbies as once you were also one
Because so many newbies come strutting in here with no idea what they'te talking about, but utterly full of themselves. And because those people can't be bothered with even the minimum level of professional courtesy, like:
1) following the very clear instructions found on this very posting form about stuff like formatting source code 2) selecting the right architecture from the list box (you failed at that) 3) showing at least some evidence of having consulted the bloody manual before posting here 4) describing problems at least a bit more usefully than the proverbial "My car won't start, so what's wrong with it?" 5) reacting to counter-questions at least a bit more usefully than the proverb's continuation: "What do you mean, you can't tell over the phone?!" 6) checking at least superficially if this is even the right forum to ask in, before doing so 7) trying not to be the 50th person to ask the exact same question
i didn't see any straight answers or clear reference to anything that these guys have given.
"These guys" being who in partiular? You posted this entirely out of context.
And it's not exactly our fault if it took three kicks in the pants until the guy you're most likely referring to could finally be persuaded to crack open the document containing his answer.
What you perceive as animosity from the regulars is actually mostly self-defense in the face of newbies' constant rudeness.
To be fair, it might be helpful to have a link that says before asking a question to go to:
www.8052.com/.../120112
and read the bible chapters. Honestly, I didn't even know those links existed until you pointed me that direction. If you told everyone to start there before posting, it could probably save you guys some time and frustration.
you think not one example exists?
Why should anyone bother to think about that? It's your claim that this not only happened once, but rather that it was some kind of typical behaviour. The onus for proving that claim is on you. And no, a single example wouldn't prove that.
did you look? no.
Aha, so now you're a telepath, too. You're getting funnier by the minute.
would you like me to lend you a copy of simple logic theory?
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Nah. You keep that --- you need it more.
look back at your deduction. or rather the lack of.
But wait now - logic theory claims that a single example doesn't prove that a significant number of threads contains what you claim they contains.
Which was why I said to show a selection of examples from last 100 threads.
What part do you find wrong with that?
And that entirely insubstantial admonishment is all you, proud owner of a book on simple logic theory, could come up with? Must be not a very good book, then. It seems to teach stuff like "proof of a generalized statement by claim of existence of one example" and "proving your point is the job of your opposition".
That looks like I'll have to amend my earlier advice: you should not keep that book --- you should burn it and get a better one.
start with a 7400 and work up from there!
So, once more you resort to plain and utter nonsense. From that I deduce we've been wrong giving you the benefit of the doubt this long, and that you really are a 100% pure-breed troll, and as such best ignored. Good luck with your miserable life, and good bye.
EOD.
the text has now got a reasonable amount of proof.
qed.
So we got a claim.
And no backing, when asking for examples.
Then a claim of bad logic, when no bad logic had been used.
Then a random jump to "7400" when asking about that bad logic - an attempt to cover the tracks.
This is a good example of a thread where no one can help, because there are no proper foundation to build on.
you dont like the suggestion that a 7400 appears to be able to exhibit more logic than those responses?
live with it.
so. in order for you to believe me i must provide a name of the offender? NO.
i prefer you to consider me a troll rather than do that!
besides, i have no doubt that the person in question knows who they are.
Had you actually read any manual(s) before posting?
Did you subsequently read any manual(s)?
Why do you consider reading manuals "demeaning"?
instead of being so one dimensional and defensive in looking for my name youd spend your time better by looking for the Please read the manual responses! so you expect instead "I will gladly read the manual for you, find the place that refer to the problem you describe and reply in the next post. Since I read the manual for you, when your next problem cones up, you will have no idea what to do, so please post and I will then gladly read the manual for you again".
Please read the manual serves two purposes, a the OP will find the answer and b) the OP will get used to using it.
Erik
thanks for the info guys. a lot of good examples and useful material.
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