I like this message very much, ohh! what's pitiful! it's 2 years ago. but I really hope the writer or someone can send VS51.exe. thanks!
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It’s just a coding ability, not others. Of course, using which development tools is almost depend on your personal habit. But we should agree with that the good tool makes life easier. The book《code complete》will give more viewpoints
The IDE as productivity enhancing - you must be kidding.
The statement would be true if the IDEs did not force you to use inferior components in addition to the components that attract you.
In my opinion if an IDE does not allow e.g. the editor to be replaced by CodeWright, it is useless.
in another way: I will not use the Keil IDE till it a) allow me to use MY editor b) allow me to run 47 slightly different builds from the same source c) do not regularily get out of synch with the (e.g. SILabs) chip interface
I have enhanced my productivity by throwing the IDE away and using .bat files with 3 tabs on the taskbar (editor, .bat for build and emulator).
Erik
In general, an IDE does have the potential to enhance productivity.
uVision isn't a really great IDE - but it still, I think, does have the potential to enhance productivity.
Of course, with any general purpose tool, you can always do better with something specifically optimised. I think your specific situation is not a general - possibly not even common - one?
I don't agreed, Why do people develop the Slickedit(IDE without simulator)? which called professional editor! if useless? Maybe MCU project often is a samll project, so it doesn't need too much in the modern editors(IDEs) have. however, if you want to coding with modern technolgy, you should involved refactor, but without refactor tool, I don't think you can do this process easily.
agreed
Of course, with any general purpose tool, you can always do better with something specifically optimised. agreed
I think your specific situation is not a general - possibly not even common - one?
People who use VS may have same situation with me, if not, maybe a burden
"Maybe MCU project often is a samll project..."
Quite the opposite for us.
Our projects are normally too large to be run (easily) in the simulator.
What is all this "refactoring" stuff, anyhow?
from where I sit, it just looks like a fancy search-and-replace to me?
"from where I sit, it just looks like a fancy search-and-replace to me?"
I've often thought that myself!
Maybe not. http://www.wholetomato.com/
Well, a cynic would say, "If VS is so great, why would you need to add all these extras...?"
But, back to my question, that site says nothing whatsoever about what "refactoring" actually is! What does it actually mean?
It claims to make it easy - but it doesn't say what it is!
It just assumes that I want to "refactor" - it doesn't tell me why I might want to do that!
I think that the closest you get on that site is this: www.wholetomato.com/tour.asp
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