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hello i am really a newbie(an electronics student) and i have to
use at85c51snd3b but i dont know how to set uvision for it. there is
no proper target in device database. But uVision tells it
supports. 

 
actually i am supposed to built an mp3 player</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>RE: implementing at85c51snd3b on keil</title><link>https://community.arm.com/thread/154473?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:34:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">dd9e70c8-6d3c-4c71-b136-2456382a7b5c:51c15d06-0267-4f5d-ab45-0c5dfa6b60a5</guid><dc:creator>erik  malund</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
&lt;i&gt;I wonder if that was written by a Francophone&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
could be, after all Chauvin who gave name to Chauvinism, was
French.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Erik&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Chauvinism:&lt;/b&gt; 2. Prejudiced belief in the superiority of
one&amp;#39;s own gender, group, or kind:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: implementing at85c51snd3b on keil</title><link>https://community.arm.com/thread/150592?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:28:50 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">dd9e70c8-6d3c-4c71-b136-2456382a7b5c:8701a26b-1910-4f86-80e1-50f77078f355</guid><dc:creator>Andy Neil</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;in Turkiye,where i live, there are not assembler firms to
produce boards with bga boards for students low quantity
demands&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
I don&amp;#39;t think Turkey is alone in that!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
BGA and suchlike are simply not designed for low-quantity. Full
stop.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: implementing at85c51snd3b on keil</title><link>https://community.arm.com/thread/153933?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:25:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">dd9e70c8-6d3c-4c71-b136-2456382a7b5c:0be89563-c972-4a49-92d8-55b904c5062f</guid><dc:creator>Andy Neil</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;my total ire is due to them (in the pre e-mail days) writing
my management &amp;#39;there is no such bug, we can not take bug reports from
&lt;b&gt;imcompetent&lt;/b&gt; (my emphasis) people into consideration&amp;#39;&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
I wonder if that was written by a Francophone, and they didn&amp;#39;t
actually mean it as badly as a native English speaker would take
it...?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
It is quite obvious that some Atmel documents are written in
French, and the translation into English leaves a lot to be
desired.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: implementing at85c51snd3b on keil</title><link>https://community.arm.com/thread/144202?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:11:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">dd9e70c8-6d3c-4c71-b136-2456382a7b5c:f3a5b1a4-b191-40dd-8432-afa889956aa5</guid><dc:creator>Cagdas KARATAS</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
yes Andy, there are some lesson i had learned and one is&lt;br /&gt;
to keep in mind cost of development kit. Here&amp;#39;s the others:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
* Do really check package of chip whether it is that you can
assemble on board&lt;br /&gt;
(not bga package. I got snd2 &amp;amp; snd1 products but they are in bga
package. And in Turkiye,where i live, there are not assembler firms
to produce boards with bga boards for students low quantity
demands!)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
* Mp3 &amp;amp; wma decoder does not mean that product really holds
really one decoder!!! they may offer more money for it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
*Keil&amp;#39;s forums people might be quite helpful, although they love
teasing on you. (Come on guys, dont be so cruel! I know that i need
experience and i am really working for it.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
* And I love Atmel, hence they accepted to give documents for
free!!!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Thank you a lot guys. Now i have to work harder to complete this
project. 2 months to graduation...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: implementing at85c51snd3b on keil</title><link>https://community.arm.com/thread/153301?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:13:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">dd9e70c8-6d3c-4c71-b136-2456382a7b5c:dfb24860-1bbb-4ff6-abb6-d90d17fc562c</guid><dc:creator>erik  malund</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
my absolute rejection of all things Atmel is not based solely on
their &amp;#39;delay&amp;#39; in issuing errata.&lt;br /&gt;
While that is bad enough, my total ire is due to them (in the pre
e-mail days) writing my management &amp;quot;there is no such bug, we can not
take bug reports from &lt;b&gt;imcompetent&lt;/b&gt; (my emphasis) people into
consideration&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
That they are idiots is one thing, but calling me one just because
they [do not want to take the time to check]/[will not admit] a bug
is a quite different story.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Erik&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: implementing at85c51snd3b on keil</title><link>https://community.arm.com/thread/152628?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:25:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">dd9e70c8-6d3c-4c71-b136-2456382a7b5c:8bd95eca-c982-44dc-96fd-86d330bd7f50</guid><dc:creator>ImPer Westermark</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
We have had &amp;quot;non-existing&amp;quot; bugs with Microchip chips.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
We have had a large number of &amp;quot;non-existing&amp;quot; bugs in Wavecom GSM
modules. They have a number of times claimed that the bugs where in
our software. The only strange thing is of course than when they 6
months later releases new firmware, the errors suddenly disappears in
our software, while new problems arrives. The new problems often
disappears in yet newer firmware, just to be replaced by a new set of
strange - but not existing! - bugs.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Borland lost most of it&amp;#39;s market share when they got controlled by
ties and suddenly stopped admitting to bugs.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Quite a lot of companies have shown a bad track record. There is
nothing else that is as effective when it comes to getting their
customers to migrating to alternative products/solutions.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
To this day, my only irritation with Atmel is their extremely poor
simulation of their AVR chips. Getting a 3GHz Prescott to manage
about 1MHz simulation speed of a trivial AVR core without almost any
peripherial support can only be seen as a tour-de-force of bad
programming.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: implementing at85c51snd3b on keil</title><link>https://community.arm.com/thread/151842?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:01:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">dd9e70c8-6d3c-4c71-b136-2456382a7b5c:270d1f19-8840-4210-931d-e543bfeb9eb8</guid><dc:creator>erik  malund</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
&lt;i&gt;why are you so anti-Atmel...? Just curious...&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
When Atmel came out with the first flash based &amp;#39;51s I found a
silicon bug in a revision somewhere around rev &amp;#39;g&amp;#39;. I told my then
management that we could not use the Atmel chip and they wrote Atmel
&amp;quot;when is this going to be fixed?&amp;quot;. Atmel wrote back &amp;quot;there is no such
bug, we can not take bug reports from &lt;b&gt;imcompetent&lt;/b&gt; (my
emphasis) people into consideration&amp;quot;. You can imagine what such a
statement from a big company did to my relationship with management
(I was told to do the impossible; use the chip since there was no
bug). Now, lo and behold, somewhere around revison &amp;#39;s&amp;#39; what i had
reported appeared in the errata.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Now you know.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Erik&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
PS I have been forced to work with Atmel since (inhereited
projects) and the sluggishness in &amp;#39;admitting bugs&amp;#39; is still there.
Maybe now that the Perlegos&amp;#39;es are gone that will change, we have to
see. The trade press commenting on the power shift has mentioned
that, according to Perlegos Atmel could do no wrong.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: implementing at85c51snd3b on keil</title><link>https://community.arm.com/thread/151094?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 10:47:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">dd9e70c8-6d3c-4c71-b136-2456382a7b5c:08ea3721-2dff-4461-99aa-59bcefae0b78</guid><dc:creator>Dave Sudolcan</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
Erik,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
At the risk of being flamed for being off-topic, why are you so
anti-Atmel...?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Just curious...&lt;br /&gt;
Dave.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: implementing at85c51snd3b on keil</title><link>https://community.arm.com/thread/146051?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 08:30:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">dd9e70c8-6d3c-4c71-b136-2456382a7b5c:19782d3a-7bb4-46f5-bb1d-2741ead5e89e</guid><dc:creator>erik  malund</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
&lt;i&gt;they might be prepared to view this as an &amp;quot;investment&amp;quot; and lend
(or even give) you (or your college) the kit.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
or you may be fortunate enough that they will not and you will not
use Atmel, but a decent brand instead.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Erik&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: implementing at85c51snd3b on keil</title><link>https://community.arm.com/thread/144203?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 04:32:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">dd9e70c8-6d3c-4c71-b136-2456382a7b5c:a7ef1272-1021-4420-9fb8-808793db91c9</guid><dc:creator>ImPer Westermark</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
Andy: Thanks for informing me what masteries are needed to find
information on the Atmel site.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: implementing at85c51snd3b on keil</title><link>https://community.arm.com/thread/141740?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 02:51:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">dd9e70c8-6d3c-4c71-b136-2456382a7b5c:51ac8d4e-ba9c-40cc-8fae-66d03e5bc9f1</guid><dc:creator>Andy Neil</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;By the way, i mailed to atmel about resources and they told
me, i had to purchase their development kit, for full firmware
support! i am a student and i am not able to buy a $700 costing kit
just for 2-3 simple firmware. do you have any other idea?&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
You&amp;#39;d probably be better talking to your local Atmel
distributor.&lt;br /&gt;
Explain your situation as a poor student keen to use Atmel - they
&lt;i&gt;might&lt;/i&gt; be prepared to view this as an &amp;quot;investment&amp;quot; and lend (or
even give) you (or your college) the kit.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Of course, if they don&amp;#39;t, you can bear this in mind in your future
career when selecting devices...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: implementing at85c51snd3b on keil</title><link>https://community.arm.com/thread/141736?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 02:47:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">dd9e70c8-6d3c-4c71-b136-2456382a7b5c:791f3105-d7db-4b88-b4ba-8badf890cf32</guid><dc:creator>Andy Neil</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot; i am a student and i am not able to buy a $700 costing
kit&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
There is an important lesson to learn here!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Many things need to be considered when deciding what components to
use in a proposed project, and one of them is the cost of the tools
required.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
If you&amp;#39;re making a 1-off or low-volume product, this can be very
significant;&lt;br /&gt;
If you&amp;#39;re making a high-volume product, then a few thousand dollars
spent once at the start of the project to save a few pennies on every
one of millions of units sold obviously makes sense!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Undoubtedly, Atmel are aiming at the high-volume market for
this.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Even for low-volume commercial projects, Engineering design time
is expensive - and $700 doesn&amp;#39;t buy many hours!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: implementing at85c51snd3b on keil</title><link>https://community.arm.com/thread/154950?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:08:05 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">dd9e70c8-6d3c-4c71-b136-2456382a7b5c:a5384bb7-1bd9-460b-92a8-f4668ccb59be</guid><dc:creator>Andy Neil</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
Yes, that makes a lot more snese!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: implementing at85c51snd3b on keil</title><link>https://community.arm.com/thread/154474?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:43:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">dd9e70c8-6d3c-4c71-b136-2456382a7b5c:3f9e2714-73be-4b14-916a-4652fa2a59e1</guid><dc:creator>erik  malund</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
&lt;i&gt;So I removed the suffix and put that into the &amp;#39;Search&amp;#39;
box&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
just realize that quoted like this it makes no snese, please read
&amp;quot;So I removed the suffix and put &lt;i&gt;the basic name&lt;/i&gt; into the
&amp;#39;Search&amp;#39; box&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Erik&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: implementing at85c51snd3b on keil</title><link>https://community.arm.com/thread/153936?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:45:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">dd9e70c8-6d3c-4c71-b136-2456382a7b5c:65e30d84-b7ba-48eb-b361-e96251651609</guid><dc:creator>Andy Neil</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
This is what I did:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Go to &lt;a href="http://www.atmel.com/"&gt;http://www.atmel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Type &amp;quot;at85c51snd3b&amp;quot; into the &amp;#39;Search&amp;#39; box on that page&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
The results give nothing really interesting:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.atmel.com/dyn/general/advanced_search_results.asp?device=1&amp;amp;tools=1&amp;amp;faqs=1&amp;amp;datasheets=1&amp;amp;appNotes=1&amp;amp;userGuides=1&amp;amp;software=1&amp;amp;press=1&amp;amp;articles=1&amp;amp;flyers=1&amp;amp;checkAll=1&amp;amp;checkAllReference=1&amp;amp;target=at85c51snd3b"&gt;&amp;quot; href=
&amp;quot;http://www.atmel.com/dyn/general/advanced_search_results.asp?device=1&amp;amp;tools=1&amp;amp;faqs=1&amp;amp;datasheets=1&amp;amp;appNotes=1&amp;amp;userGuides=1&amp;amp;software=1&amp;amp;press=1&amp;amp;articles=1&amp;amp;flyers=1&amp;amp;checkAll=1&amp;amp;checkAllReference=1&amp;amp;target=at85c51snd3&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.atmel.com/dyn/general/advanced_search_results.asp?device=1&amp;amp;tools=1&amp;amp;faqs=1&amp;amp;datasheets=1&amp;amp;appNotes=1&amp;amp;userGuides=1&amp;amp;software=1&amp;amp;press=1&amp;amp;articles=1&amp;amp;flyers=1&amp;amp;checkAll=1&amp;amp;checkAllReference=1&amp;amp;target=at85c51snd3"&gt;www.atmel.com/.../advanced_search_results.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
This one has the link to the Registration form!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: implementing at85c51snd3b on keil</title><link>https://community.arm.com/thread/153304?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:27:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">dd9e70c8-6d3c-4c71-b136-2456382a7b5c:44602a49-86f9-4127-a0e5-60bd97464674</guid><dc:creator>ImPer Westermark</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
But your claim was still valid anyway.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
I did the mistake of selecting the wrong ARM derivative not too
long ago. I went for an LPC2119 for a project without realizing that
it is truly lousy at sending data as an SPI slave, requiring a change
to an LPC2364. Since the Keil tools doesn&amp;#39;t simulate the 2364 yet,
I&amp;#39;m now waiting to see if the Keil update or the HW prototype will
arrive first.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: implementing at85c51snd3b on keil</title><link>https://community.arm.com/thread/152629?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:52:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">dd9e70c8-6d3c-4c71-b136-2456382a7b5c:c6652dca-245f-41e2-bad1-2c6edef88bde</guid><dc:creator>erik  malund</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
not addrssed to you, Per, just a comment on your post which
reflect on the OP&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Erik&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: implementing at85c51snd3b on keil</title><link>https://community.arm.com/thread/151840?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:44:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">dd9e70c8-6d3c-4c71-b136-2456382a7b5c:2fabfe12-334a-49cb-b35c-cffa8aac5dd8</guid><dc:creator>ImPer Westermark</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
I&amp;#39;m not on a hunt for a SND1, SND2 or SND3. I was just curious
where Andy managed to locate the link.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: implementing at85c51snd3b on keil</title><link>https://community.arm.com/thread/151095?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:21:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">dd9e70c8-6d3c-4c71-b136-2456382a7b5c:4c80f2ec-7734-4a20-9c21-a1b1b8abe1e2</guid><dc:creator>erik  malund</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
&lt;i&gt;Yes, I have already visited that page, but all references are
for the SND1 or SND2 chips, and I didn&amp;#39;t find any links that pops up
a registration form. They either moved to other pages, or opened
downloads of SND1/SND2 software or documentation.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
lesson learned; investigate fully before selecting derivative. so,
now, go buy a snd1 or a snd2&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Erik&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: implementing at85c51snd3b on keil</title><link>https://community.arm.com/thread/146047?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:09:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">dd9e70c8-6d3c-4c71-b136-2456382a7b5c:70037d7f-6926-4d5b-8195-d7001ce4c797</guid><dc:creator>ImPer Westermark</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
Yes, I have already visited that page, but all references are for
the SND1 or SND2 chips, and I didn&amp;#39;t find any links that pops up a
registration form. They either moved to other pages, or opened
downloads of SND1/SND2 software or documentation.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
In the menu, I found a link &amp;#39;Support Center&amp;#39; and in the footer i
found &amp;#39;Contact&amp;#39;. However, I didn&amp;#39;t find a link to the registration
form in your previous post.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Hence, my question where you managed to locate that link.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: implementing at85c51snd3b on keil</title><link>https://community.arm.com/thread/144201?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:04:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">dd9e70c8-6d3c-4c71-b136-2456382a7b5c:7d0436cc-4a6f-41af-893a-fded92d6ce00</guid><dc:creator>Andy Neil</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools.asp?family_id=636"&gt;www.atmel.com/.../tools.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: implementing at85c51snd3b on keil</title><link>https://community.arm.com/thread/141738?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:03:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">dd9e70c8-6d3c-4c71-b136-2456382a7b5c:5b38ac55-1c4b-4a61-a9bd-7001cc09960f</guid><dc:creator>Andy Neil</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;simple firmware&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
How do you know it&amp;#39;s &amp;quot;simple&amp;quot; firmware?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
If it&amp;#39;s doing all the MP3 stuff, it&amp;#39;ll be anything but simple!&lt;br /&gt;
And it&amp;#39;ll probably be subject to royalties.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Couldn&amp;#39;t you use one of their other chips which &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;does&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;
have the MP3 built in?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Or perhaps: &lt;a href="http://www.vinculum.com/prd_vmusic1.html#vmusic2"&gt;www.vinculum.com/prd_vmusic1.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: implementing at85c51snd3b on keil</title><link>https://community.arm.com/thread/138404?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:57:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">dd9e70c8-6d3c-4c71-b136-2456382a7b5c:363b35e3-ea57-4fc0-b4a6-e75355958604</guid><dc:creator>Cagdas KARATAS</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
Andy Neil : really thanks for link. i filled it out and still
waiting for them to sen password etc...( should it take so long to
send it?) I hope i&amp;#39;ll got some firmware and other helpful
resources.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
By the way, i mailed to atmel about resources and they told me, i
had to purchase their development kit, for full firmware support! i
am a student and i am not able to buy a $700 costing kit just for 2-3
simple firmware. do you have any other idea?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
or will they send me a password for free instead of selling a kit?
lets see:)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: implementing at85c51snd3b on keil</title><link>https://community.arm.com/thread/134960?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:28:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">dd9e70c8-6d3c-4c71-b136-2456382a7b5c:61cdcaea-9582-442d-a53a-885b426e0e66</guid><dc:creator>ImPer Westermark</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
Where did you find that link?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: implementing at85c51snd3b on keil</title><link>https://community.arm.com/thread/123723?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 17:27:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">dd9e70c8-6d3c-4c71-b136-2456382a7b5c:2e260885-af34-4b2f-a502-6a1e419a7279</guid><dc:creator>Andy Neil</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;Please fill out and submit the form below to obtain the access
and password to the restricted area. This will allow you to access
up-to-date resources required to develop application using
AT8xC51SND1C, AT8xC51SND2C or AT85C51SND3 devices.&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.atmel.com/products/mp3/mp3_registration_form.asp"&gt;www.atmel.com/.../mp3_registration_form.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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